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"davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com" (davesaddiction) 06/18/2020 at 16:55 • Filed to: None

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Buffer image! ‘Murica!!

Keep it excellent, my friends.

Hopefully the folks convening in my city this weekend (on both sides of the political spectrum ) can keep it mostly civil as well, but I’m not willing to bet on it... Glad I’ll be getting out of town, honestly. Any predictions for how it will go in Tulsa?

Anyone have recommendations for things to do/see around Taos & Angelfire?

Darkbrador > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 16:53

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Taos itself is pretty cool to spend some time, art galleries and sh&t stores. There are some interesting hot spring water bath not too far ... with weird-@ss looking houses/compound in the desert in between. Straight roads with no turns for miles and miles ... You can also ride the lifts at the ski valley or do some mountain bikin’ ... 

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 16:58

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eh....evenhanded politics discussion?

when did that happen?

far as i can tell most of us are a bunch of militant lefties.....

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 06/18/2020 at 16:59

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You participated. =)

https://oppositelock.kinja.com/politics-comparing-presidential-approval-1844057115

jminer > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 17:00

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I agree Oppo is definitely an awesome place! In a time where I find myself spending almost zero time on FB due to how radical everyone is becoming Oppo has been an awesome refuge and community for us all .

While we all (myself included) get a bit hot headed from time to time I think we’d make Bill and Ted proud.

MonkeePuzzle > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 17:00

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WHY IS THE DEMOCRATIC CAR POSITIONED IN FRONT OF THE REPUBLICAN CAR!? AND WHY IS ONLY A WHITE CAR FEATURED ASWELL?

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 17:02

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lol

well.... i am a militant leftie..

a polite one :p

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > jminer 06/18/2020 at 17:03

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Seriously, there is now way I could have the discussions I have here on Fb without them devolving into a shouting match, or people posting fake news stories, or comparing someone to Hitler.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 06/18/2020 at 17:05

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Perhaps just the ones that state their personal preference. That's one thing I'll never do here but I'll participate in debates with some pretense of suspending bias. Once it starts getting to comparing parties I'm out.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Darkbrador 06/18/2020 at 17:05

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Thanks for the hot springs tip.

Hopefully some of the shops are open. I’m afraid most will be closed, but we’ll see, I guess. We’ll be doing a lot of hiking, my son will go mountain biking with his cousins, maybe we’ll find some horse to ride.

TheRealBicycleBuck > MonkeePuzzle 06/18/2020 at 17:05

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There goes MonkeePuzzle, throwing poo again.

:)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > MonkeePuzzle 06/18/2020 at 17:06

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It’s only in front based on your perspective. =)

Nick Has an Exocet > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 06/18/2020 at 17:07

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As someone who is radically centrist and an INFJ personality (which seeks harmony), you guys make me out to be some kind of american underpants wearing, gun totin’, right wing extremist. Heck, I’ve been attacked for NOT having an opinion. 

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 06/18/2020 at 17:07

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im a non american...i mostly stay out of your shit coz i have nothing usefull to add

i know wich side i prefer.... but ultimately my opinion is meaningless...and most of the time i manage to keep it to meself

Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 17:09

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Oh god is it this weekend?

I think it’ll be fine unless the protesters (and I assume there will be protesters) get hassled to a degree that shit gets weird. As long as protesters and TPD keep a cool head (which, so far, seems to have been the case) and the attendees don’t go too far (TBD) it’ll be ok. I suspect if there is in incident it’ll be an attendee harassing a protester, who then responds, which then provokes a police response, and it goes downhill from there.

Also presumably 19,000 people are about to have known exposure to COVID-19.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 17:12

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Taos, eh?

Taos Pizza Out Back

www.pizzaoutback.com

Also, be sure to visit the Rio Grande Gorge Bridge.

Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 17:13

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Also yes. Oppo is currently the only “social network” I’m allowing myself to be on. I’ve got Twitter and Facebook blocked locally because I can’t stop myself from checking them and yet they’re really harshing my calm.

The downside of Oppo being so friendly, if you want to call it a downside, is on the semi- rare occasion a comment is... less than excellent, it really gets to me.  Also I have had to delete a couple spicier takes for the sake of community harmony.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 06/18/2020 at 17:13

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I value outsider’s opinions but of course all your info is coming from a biased source. All my inf o is coming from a biased so ur ce too but I try to get both biases. I won't say "vote for Pedro" but I will say "Pedro won't be very good at this but he will address the other issue with competence." 

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > MonkeePuzzle 06/18/2020 at 17:14

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Republican car is way too centered in this photo.

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 17:15

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I rarely agree with anywhere on actual politics but I enjoy reading stuff here because people don't usually take disagreeing as a personal attack. 

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Nick Has an Exocet 06/18/2020 at 17:15

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american centrist would be hard right wing over here

anyhoo... im sorry if i offended your american underpants wearing, gun toting, right wing extremist ass

would it help if i mail you some stroopwafel liquer?

qbeezy > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 17:19

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I am definitely going to avoid downtown. Tulsa has been pretty civil, just afraid of outside agents causing ruckus. 

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 06/18/2020 at 17:22

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from here....it seems like you’d have to try to vote someone worse in than the dude currently occupying the white house

but....biden aint great either

what is it with you lot and old white corpses

hey you know who should decide whats best for us all... this old white soon to be dead guy.... he knows what we want for the future

Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 06/18/2020 at 17:30

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I wish we could just hit reset on the current crop of politicians and people’s delicate sensibilities. Not a great year to be voting for the first time.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > qbeezy 06/18/2020 at 17:32

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Yup - stay safe, man!

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Who is the Leader - 404 / Blog No Longer Available 06/18/2020 at 17:34

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fair dinkum

the worlds gone mad.....

welp make your vote count mate

good luck  :)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Nick Has an Exocet 06/18/2020 at 17:35

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LOL

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo 06/18/2020 at 17:37

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Yes - please, please let cooler heads prevail.

The outbreak potential is not pretty.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Akio Ohtori - RIP Oppo 06/18/2020 at 17:39

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Not every comment can be excellent.

But be excellent, even to those who are not excellent to you. =)

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 06/18/2020 at 17:39

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Thanks!

For Sweden > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 17:39

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what a bunch of libs

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > For Sweden 06/18/2020 at 17:41

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You don’t know me, man... =)

Chariotoflove > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 18:05

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I have to say, you ran a good show.

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 18:26

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Out here in Oregon one of our rural counties just had over 100 confirmed COVID cases in one day all from a single church event where they weren’t following social distancing practices.

Can pretty much assume a similar outcome, just at a much larger scale with the rally. Would bet most people won’t be wearing masks, and very closely packed indoors. Funny they’re making people sign waivers to not sue the campaign if they come down with the disease. W hat if someone who lives with them comes down with it - they never signed any waiver.

Just a shitshow all around with Juneteenth, the current race related unrest, etc. and with COVID on top of it. As far as Trump is concerned it’s a perfect way to get his base pumped up even more. Given that he doesn’t even try expanding his base, of course he doesn’t even care. 

Nick Has an Exocet > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 06/18/2020 at 18:43

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A full on package full of stroopwafels alone would be my jam. I don’t actually drink, but I do love stroopwafels.

I don’t get offended by people’s views, provided they aren’t a dick about it. I had a hypothetical/non-hypothetical conversation with a coworker the other day. His building rule is “one household per elevator ride”. Someone go into his elevator with him and his girlfriend, and they shouted the person (who had been waiting for several minutes) out of the elevator.

My feelings on the mask thing are a lot like my political views. If it bothers you that I’m not wearing the mask , then I wear the mask. If it bothers you that I’m wearing the mask, then I probably won’t wear the mask. If no one is around, I’ll default to determining my own level of social comfort. I tend to think the masks are 10% science and 90% panic. Should you wear a mask in a store? Probably. Should you be required to wear a mask when hiking? Absolutely not. Yet humans suck at nuance and we’ve spent the last 20 years beating any kind of critical thinking out of the education system in pursuit of some kind of American version of European education. Jeez, that was a rant. 4th rant in like 2 days. WTF.

atfsgeoff > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 19:03

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Before engaging in meaningful political discussion, the personal philosophy of the participants regarding what they think the functions and overall goals of society should be, is essential.

Does the individual exist to serve the community? Does the community exist to serve the individual? What is the Social Contract and how does one effectively opt-out? What is a human right? What is a privilege? What is property and what can be property, and to whom can this property belong? What is consent, and what is coercion? What is justice?

These are all basic questions that a lot of very outspoken people don’t bother to ask themselves before picking a side and just dutifully toeing the party line.

More importantly than that, political decisions and laws don’t exist in a vacuum, there are always unintended consequences of legislation, no matter how innocuous it seems.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Chariotoflove 06/18/2020 at 19:09

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Thanks. I just followed the rules, shared some interesting info, and “set the table” for discussion. I really don’t have a dog in this hunt, so that probably helps.

Just Jeepin' > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 06/18/2020 at 19:10

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His base is terrifying.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2020/06/inside-the-cult-of-trump-his-rallies-are-church-and-he-is-the-gospel

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Just Jeepin' 06/18/2020 at 19:15

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I’ve been referring to them as his “ disciples” in conversations with my brothers. These are the people who would follow him even if he shot someone in the middle of  5th Ave., like he said.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Just Jeepin' 06/18/2020 at 19:25

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The people in this article are clearly unhinged... Go far enough to the left and you will find people similarly disconnected from reality. 

Chariotoflove > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 19:29

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I think that’s the key. From what I see, choosing your words in the body of the post sets the tone for what kind of comments it attracts. 

Jb boin > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 19:29

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What a nice depiction of the flag of Am ... the Netherlands !

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 19:54

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I liked Taos very much, but Mrs. Vandura not so much. And it gets freeze-your-cookies-off cold there in winter.

Just Jeepin' > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 20:33

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Sure, but the ones on the left don’t have the president of the U.S. feeding off their delusions and encouraging them to revel in it. That’s the really  dangerous part.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Chariotoflove 06/18/2020 at 20:36

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It helps, but the most innocuous of threads can quickly  go off the rails with a couple willing participants.

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Jb boin 06/18/2020 at 20:38

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Haha - yes. 

Shour, Aloof and Obnoxious > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 21:20

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Angelfire, eh? Well, there’s skiing.

Also, skiing.

Oh, and that one thing everyone goes to Angelfire to do! What was it again? Riiiight. Skiing.

f86sabre > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/18/2020 at 21:43

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could be interesting. Ms Kayyem tends to be fairly pragmatic. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > Shour, Aloof and Obnoxious 06/18/2020 at 23:17

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And mountain biking!

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > f86sabre 06/18/2020 at 23:19

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Hmm... We’ll see. 

farscythe - makin da cawfee! > Nick Has an Exocet 06/18/2020 at 23:40

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diehellcat at gmail dot com

shoot me an adress and ill ship over some nice stroop wafels lol

anyhoo... over here we only do masks if you want to use public transport....for some reason thats the rule we came up with

soooo now everyone has fancy designer face cloths ordered from etsy so they can look snazzy on the bus

Nick Has an Exocet > farscythe - makin da cawfee! 06/19/2020 at 01:12

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Hahaha, I was mainly joking. If you get me for secret senna, just remember that.

That sounds like a good rule. San Francisco’s rule is that you must wear one if you’re in public and within 30 ft of another human. They must have mistook this virus for one of the many experiments that the military has carried out on the city.

I have a lot of coworkers that make fancy designer masks and give them away. I have a fancier n95 style running mask that people use in polluted cities. I figured it would come in handy if the wildfires return here.

https://www.businessinsider.com/the-military-tested-bacterial-weapons-in-san-francisco-2015-7#:~:text=It%2520all%2520began%2520in%2520late,and%2520spread%2520over%2520the%2520city.

Shour, Aloof and Obnoxious > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/19/2020 at 15:29

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True - I shouldn’t shortchange that. Anywhere in NM where there’s good skiing (Taos, ABQ, Ruidoso, Cloudcroft) turns into great mountain biking during the hot months. Definitely short sighted of me to not think of that.

qbeezy > davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com 06/20/2020 at 19:32

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It's been quite the dud. Am for that I am happy. Even drove downtown. An excellent waste of the Secret Service, OHP, and TPD. 

davesaddiction @ opposite-lock.com > qbeezy 06/20/2020 at 23:11

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Your tax dollars at work! 

ZHP Sparky, the 5th > Just Jeepin' 06/22/2020 at 11:49

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I just don’t get their obsession with “the gay agenda” and pedophilia . It seems to be a central tenet of their belief system.